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Derrick
November 8th, 2006, 11:46 PM
Ok, quick recap: 8 team league, added team 9 week 4. They bowled the BYE team week 4 and made up weeks 1-3 based on a draw system.

Before week 9 a team sub asked me if it would be too late to add a 10th team. I told him that we can add a new team anytime, BUT it would have to go before the league board. And with the trouble we had letting team 9 make up the three weeks, they may just want to not make the games up, and only bowl for point money for the first half (2- 17 weeks halves) we have team captains that are dead set against the percentage system. I also told him that it would likely be voted to wait until each team had their shot at the BYE team, so there would be no fair/unfair issues either way.

Week 9 at the center, BoD meeting, it was agreed that each team should have their shot at the BYE team. But the new team could bowl as pacers in the BYE teams spot. Each team captain was OK with that, except the team that was bowling the BYE team that night. It got ugly from there. Two members of this new team are already disliked by a majority of the league. If I recall, there was a party after the league got rid of them several years ago, but I digress. My personal opinion is they can go bowl in he||, but, as secretary of the league my personal opinion does not matter. And I would be able to do my job with disregard to these feeling if they were to bowl. Getting off topic here. After their whining it was decided they could not bowl in the BYE spot that week. It had already taken too much time, so we left it at that and bowled.

Week 10 of a 10 team schedule has team 9 bowling the BYE team. Well, now we can't let each team bowl the BYE once, since team 9 would have bowled them twice (their first week, week 4). A couple of options came to mind:

1) Change teams 9's week 4 from bowling BYE to bowling DRAW and draw a team for their scores to be pit against. I don't like this idea.

2) Move week 10 down to week 14 and move weeks 11-13 up a week. This would not change any opponents bowled during the half, only the dates they were bowled.

That option is much better, BUT, I still question the point of having this team bowl as a pacer. Scores will not count toward a USBC average, league average, league awards, the only thing that will count is USBC honor scores, or USBC average awards if they have a book average, provided they purchase a USBC card. They would have to pay the house lineage on their own as I would not be collecting any money from them.

I thought of an alternate idea...

New team 10 buys USBC cards if needed week 10 (Thursday Nov 9, 2006)

3) Have team 9 bowl against new team 10 heads up this week. The following three weeks, which are the last 3 teams that have not bowled the BYE team, and those 3 team captains had no objection to team 10 bowling as a pacer, anyway, those three weeks team 10 would bowl against the team bowling the BYE to earn points, the team bowling on the same pair as team 10 would still only have to bowl team average -40 (4 man teams) to earn the wins.

The only downside is the number of possible wins for determining point money. A normal week has only 20 possible points won. Those 3 weeks would have a possible 24, since two teams bowling against each other could both win 4.

What do you think??? And can you over ride points in BLS to give each team a win? Ohhhhhh that is something I can answer myself by trying it out right now.... yes, yes you can.

Sorry I am so long winded. If you have questions, comments, suggestions, please, post them.


Thanks,


Derrick

Patrick Lajko
November 8th, 2006, 11:58 PM
I believe you need to keep in mind that games bowled stand as they are. You can't go back and change what you had team 9 do. Whatever has already happened with team 9 must stay as it is.

You could have team 10 make-up all their games. You would have to override the points for team 10 and probably team 9 (to keep them as they were) to allow team 10 to make-up their games.

"Pacer" is worthless. Since the games don't count, there is no need to bowl good ( or is it WELL ??)(can we say "sandbagging"?). Pacers were only invented to "keep the pace" by having each team have the same number of bowlers.

OR you could NOT require team 10 to make-up the games and then base standings on a percentage, but not allow team 10 to win because they don't have enough games. (A new feature of BLS-2007 is to be able to alter the team standings due to roll-offs or other reasons. Start a new thread on it if you don't know how to do it.)